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Working Paper: C.F. Kahnt plate numbers 1888–1920

 

This list was prepared to aid the challenging process of compiling an evidence-based chronological listing  of the exemplars of the numerous undated copies of the songs by Mahler which, although initially issued separately from 1905, were eventually also published, from 1917, under the collective title Sieben Lieder aus letzter Zeit. The publishing rights to the songs were acquired by C.F. Kahnt in April 1905 and from 1910 until 1939 they were also distributed under license by Universal-Edition. For a number of reasons the creation of such a listing of these songs is particularly challenging:

  • the copies of Kahnt issues only list a copyright date (on title pages and front wrappers, though these can change) and, unlike firms such as Peters and Universal-Edition, did not include date codes on the advertisements included in their publications;

  • no archival ledgers from C.F. Kahnt that give details of dates and sizes of print runs have been located.

So, apart from those printed copies issued by Kahnt that can be unambiguously identified as first impressions of the first edition, most copies supplied by Kahnt are undated. This is also generally true of the UE issues: most do not carry adverts for UE publications (this may have been a condition of the license), and when they do, they rarely include a date code. On the other hand, the UE Verlagsbücher survive, and provide details of dates and sizes of print runs (though the entries are by no means always accurate or unambiguous) so the existence of separate UE impressions is at least documented.

 

The creation of a chronological listing of surviving copies therefore has to rely on other types of evidence, which can be contradictory, and the interpretation of which is inevitably subject to uncertainty:

  • Title pages: the variants in content (publications listed, prices, publisher's name, other information), particularly in the passe-partout title pages employed for editions of full scores and piano-vocal scores of individual songs, can offer a broad means of ordering and approximately dating copies (but see the note on wrappers, below).

  • Wrappers: these did not use the same paper as the body of the copy and it was usually coloured rather than white or cream. They are lacking in many surviving copies.

    • Front wrapper: Kahnt issues of full scores and piano-vocal scores of individual songs always adopted the general passe-partout design of the title page, but, confusingly the content of the title page and front wrapper of a particular copy may represent quite different states of that design. In such cases the wrapper is always demonstrably later in date.
      The UE issues are always provided with a UE wrapper design: two types (A and B) were in use during this period, type B being introduced c. 1919 after which type A was phased out.

    • Front wrapper verso and back wrapper recto: in Kahnt issues these normally carried whole page advertisements; they were always blank in UE issues.

    • Back wrapper verso: in Kahnt issues these seem always to have carried whole page advertisements; in UE issues they very occasionally carried UE adverts, but were normally blank.

  • Advertisements: both publishers used a limited number of standard whole-page designs, the content of which can at least suggest a terminus post quem or, if it changed overtime, may offer evidence for chronological ordering.

  • Hofmeister: the listings of new music publications in the Musikalisch-literarischer Monatsbericht über neue Musikalien, musikalische Schriften und Abbildungen published by Friedrich Hofmeister and his successors from 1829 onwards are a guide to probable dates of publication, usually within +/- 4 weeks of the date of the listing, though wider discrepancies are certainly possible. A major limitation is that new impressions of previously listed editions were not recorded, and even new editions (e.g. of new transpositions, or with new text translations) were not consistently listed, so that at best Hofmeister documents the later publication history of a song very incompletely.

  • Plate numbers: these can give an indication of the order in which the plate numbers were assigned to a particular publication format (e.g. score, parts, vocal score) of a work. They are not necessarily a precise indication of the date of engraving, printing or publication.

The list below includes all known publications by C. F. Kahnt of Mahler's music ordered by plate number and interleaved with a selection of other publications issued by C.F. Kahnt that were listed in the Hofmeister Monatsbericht (in green). In most cases where a Mahler publication was not listed in Hofmeister, a conjectural editorial date has been supplied in square brackets. In a few instances a plate number appears to be inconsistent with the date of the Hofmeister listing (which appears in red):

 

Plate no.

Hofmeister

entry

Composer

Title

Format

         

2892

1887.06

Jadassohn, S.

Piano Quartet, op. 86

Score/parts

2920

1888.04

Busoni

Symphonische Suite, op. 25

PF

2951

1888.04

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos

VS

2951

1888.04

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: sep. issues of nos 2, 4, 9, 10, 15, 16

VS

2952

[1888]

Weber/Mahler Die drei Pintos: chorus parts Ch

2953

[1888.04]

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos, Acts I-III; Entracte

FS

2954

[1888]

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: orchestral parts

PO

2975

[1888.11]

Weber/Mahler

Die drei PintosMelodiestrauß I, arr. piano

PT2

2976

[1888.11]

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: Melodiestrauß II, arr. piano

PT2

2977

[1888.11]

Weber/Mahler

Die drei PintosMelodiestrauß I, arr. piano duet

PT4

2983

1888.11

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: arr. violin & piano, vol. 1

Score/part

2984

1888.11

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: arr. violin & piano, vol. 2

Score/part

2985

1888.11

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: arr. violin & piano, vol. 3

Score/part

2986

1888.11

Weber/Mahler

Klänge aus Die drei Pintos, arr. piano

PT2

?

1888.11

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: Entracte arr. Militärmusik

PF/PO

?

1888.11

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: Melodienstrauß arr. Militärmusik

PF/PO

3000

1888.11

Brüll, Ignaz

Das steinerne Herz

PV

3042

[by 1889.04]

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: arr. piano solo

PTp2

3073

1889.06

Schreck, Gustav

Oboe Sonata, op. 13

Score/part

4335

1905.02

Erlemann

Op. 6. Geistergruß

 

4328

1905.03

Koch

Von den Tageszeiten, op. 29

VS

4420

1905.04

Zuschneid

Drei patriotische Lieder

 

4454

1905.08

Hausegger, S. von

Drei Hymnen an die Nacht

 

4459a-e

1905.07

Mahler

Kindertotenlieder

PVm1

4460a-e

1905.07

Mahler

Kindertotenlieder

PFm1/POm1

4461

1905.07

Mahler

Revelge

PV1h1

4462

1905.07

Mahler

Revelge

PF1h1

4464

1905.07

Mahler

Der Tamboursg'sell

PV2m1

4465

1905.07

Mahler

Der Tamboursg'sell

PF2m1

4466

1905.07

Mahler

Der Tamboursg'sell

PO2m1

4467

1905.07

Mahler

Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder

PV3m1

4468

1905.07

Mahler

Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder

PF3m1

4467   Mahler Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder PO3m1

4470

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PV4m1

4471

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PF4m1

4472

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PO4m1

4473

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PV5h1

4474

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PF5h1

4475

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PO5h1

4476

1905.07

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PV6m1

4477

1905.07

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PF6m1

4478

1905.07

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PO6m1

4479

1905.07

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PV6h1

4480

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PV5m1

4502

1905.07

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PF6h1

4503

1905.07

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PO6h1

4526*

1906.03

Mahler

Sechste Symphonie

PS1

4526*

1906.11

Mahler

Sechste Symphonie

PF1 

4536

1905.10

Kienzl, Wilhelm

Op. 71. Moderne Lyrik. No. 10. Abendgang. 

 

4539

1905.12

Kienzl

Das Hochland der Germanen

 

4559

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PF5m1

4560

1905.07

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PO5m1

4562

1906.01

Barblan, Otto

Op. 15. Psalm 23 

 

4598

1906.02

Bizet

Zwei Orchester-Suiten L'Arlesienne für Violine und Klavier von Otto Singer.

 

4617

[1906]

Mahler

Revelge

PV1m1

4647

1906.05

Koch 

Die deutsche Tanne, op. 30

VS

4649

1906.05

Mahler

Sechste Symphonie

PTp41

4664

1906.08

Lorenz, Alfred

Piano Quartet

 

4693

[1906]

Mahler

Sechste Symphonie

PO1b

4823

1907.03

Mahler 

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PV7m1

4824

1907.03

Mahler 

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PV7h1

4877

1907.04

Kaun, Hugo

Op. 72, Nr. 8, Heraus mein Kind

 

4894

1907.04

Zerlett, Johann B.

Op. 257. Die Toten der Heide

 

4895

1907.04

Wernicke, A.

Op. 29. Sommernacht

 

4941

1907.07

Podbertsky, Theodore

Op. 178. Der verlorene Haufen

 

5017

1907.09

Kaun, Hugo

Op. 75. Nr. 1, Vom Schneiden

 

5126

1908.03

Podbertsky, Theodore

Op. 184. Vor den Türen

 

5390

1908.11

Horn

Werk 19 No. 2. Ein Teufelein, ein Engelein

 

5406

1908.11

Horn

Op. 38, Nr. 1. Der Fischer

 

5608

1909.11

Berr, José

Op. 54. Vogelweisheit

 

5609

1909.11

Berr, José

Op. 52. Allerseelen.

 

5687

1910.11

Mahler 

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PV7h2

5688

1910.11

Mahler 

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PV7m2

5689

1910.11

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PV5h3

5690

1910.11

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PV5m2

5761

1910.03

Beilschmidt, Curt

Op. 12, Nr. 2. Reiter im Herbst

 

5811

1910.04

Möskes

Op. 14. Zwei Männerchöre

 

5858

1910.07

Trunk, Richard

Op. 28, Nr. 1. Fidelitas.

 

5870

1910.07

Nagler, Franciscus

Op. 62. Helgoland

 

6038

1911.03

Beilschmidt, Curt

Fünf instruktive Stücke f. Pfte, Op. 15.  Nr. 2. Serenade. 

 

6199

1911.10

Berr, José

Op. 61. Ein Singsang vom Rheine.

 

6226

1911.10

Kageler, Ludwig

Op. 6. Der verlorene Haufen

 

6240

1911.10

Dürrner, Johannes

Das Vöglein im Walde. 

 

6314-23

1912.05

Niemann, Walter

Op. 21. Schwarzwald-Idyllen

 

6475

1912.12

Koemmenich, Louis

„Ein Knabe ging wohl um die Morgenstund‟.

 

6485

1912.12

Krieger, Johann P.

Suite aus "Lustige Feldmusic" 1704. 

 

6611

1914.

Mikorey, Franz

Piano Quintet in E minor (Copyright 1914)

Score/parts

6615

1913.02

Othegraven, August v.

Op. 46. Landesknechts Lust und Leid.

VS

6665

1913.01

Pezel, Johann C.

Suite aus "Delitiae musicales oder Lust-Music"

 

6722

1913.01

Lubrich, Fritz

Op. 34. Chor der Toten

 

6858

1913.06

Wolff, Erich J.

Op. 26, Nr. 6. Meine Braut führ ich heim.

 

6981

1913.03

Klose, Friedrich

Ein Festgesang Neros

VS

7080

1913.09

Stöhr, Richard

Op. 34/5. Duette für Sopran und Tenor mit Klavier (Copyright 1913)

VS

7081

1913.08

Hänssel, W

An das Vaterland

 

7115

1913.10

Schön, Carl

Op. 32. Morgenfrieden: „Sanft bestreifen kühle Lüfte“

 

7189

1914.05

Rosenmüller, Johann

Suite aus "Studenten-Music" 1654. 

 

7238

1914.02

Klauer, F. G.

Op. 16, Nr. 4, Morgenwanderung

 

7251

1914.04

Klose, Friedrich

Vier Gesänge für Männerchor, Nr. 2

 

7333

1914.07

Schiebold, Carl A., arr.

Blaublümelein. "Es fiel ein Reif in der Frühlingsnacht".

 

7430-34

1915.12

Mahler

Kindertotenlieder

PVh

?

1915.12

Mahler

Kindertotenlieder

PFh

7445

1915.12

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PV4h1

7446

1916.01

Möskes, Carl

Sei mir gegrüßt, du Land am Rhein! 

 

7451

1916.03

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PF4h1

7452

1916.03

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PO4h1

7458

 

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PF5t1

7459

 

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PO5t1

7460

1916.03

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PF6t1

?

1916.03

Mahler

„Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen‟

PV5t1

7468

1916.03

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PV6t1

7471

1916.03/04

Mahler 

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PF7m1

7472

1916.03/04

Mahler 

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PO7m1

7479

 

Mahler

Revelge

PV1m2

7480

1917.01

Mahler

Der Tambours'gsell

PV2h1

7481

 

Mahler

Der Tambours'gsell

PV2m2

7482

1917.01

Mahler

Der Tambours'gsell

PV2t1

7483

1917.01

Mahler

„Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder‟

PV3h1

7484

 

Mahler

„Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder‟

PV3m2

7485

1917.01

Mahler

„Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder‟

PV3t1

7486

 

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PV4h2

7487

 

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PV4m2

7488

 

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PV6h2

7489

 

Mahler

Um Mitternacht

PV6m2

7490   Mahler Um Mitternacht  

7611

 

Mahler

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PF7h1

7612

  Mahler „Liebst du um Schönheit‟ PO7h1

7613

1917.04/05

Mahler

Sieben Lieder [high voice volume pl. number]

PVch

7614

1917.04/05

Mahler

Sieben Lieder [medium voice volume pl. number]

PVcm

7615

1917.04/05

Mahler

Sieben Lieder [low voice volume pl. number]

PVct

7632

 

Mahler

Revelge

PV1t1

7633

1917.01

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PV4t1

7634

1917.01

Mahler

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PV7t1

7698

1917.04/05

Niemann, Walter

Op. 44. Chaconne. Für Klavier

 

7699

1917.04/05

Niemann, Walter

Op. 45. Sommernacht am Flusse

 

7708

 

Mahler 

„Liebst du um Schönheit‟

PF7t1

7785

 

Mahler

Der Tambours'gsell

PF2h1

7786

 

Mahler

Der Tambours'gsell

PO2h1

7787

 

Mahler

„Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder‟

PF3h1

7788

 

Mahler

„Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder‟

PO3h1

7789

 

Mahler

Der Tambours'gsell

PF2t1

7791

 

Mahler

„Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder‟

PF3t1

7792

 

Mahler

„Blicke mir nicht in die Lieder‟

PO3t1

7837

 

Weber/Mahler

Die drei Pintos: Zwischenaktmusik

PF

7884-93

1917.09

Niemann, Walter

Op. 48. Pompeji. 10 Klavierstücke

 

7924

1917.07

Niemann, Walter

Op. 49. Ballade. Für Klavier

 

7932

1918.02

Niemann, Walter

Op. 50. Anakreon

 

7945

1918.07

Niemann, Walter

Op. 52. Arabeske

 

8005

1919.01

Niemann, Walter

Op. 53. Fantasie-Mazurka. Für Klavier

 

8093

 

Mahler

Revelge

PF1t1

8094

 

Mahler

Revelge

PO1t1

8141

1919.07

Niemann, Walter

Op. 68. 3 moderne Klavierstücke. 1. Romantischer Walzer.

 

8169

 

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PF4t

8170

 

Mahler

„Ich atmet' einen linden Duft‟

PO4t

8171-74

1920.09

Niemann, Walter

Op. 71. Suite nach Worten von Hermann Hesse.

 

8257

1920.09

Niemann, Walter

Op. 74. 8 Mazurkas. Für Klavier

 
         

* The study score and full score of the Sixth Symphony share the same plate number, although they represent different versions of the Symphony: the second version (1906) was only issued in full score format. The plate number was presumably assigned in the summer of 1905; copies of the study score format (i.e. the first version, PS1) may have been available by March 1906 when the publication was announced in Hofmeister. After the first performance Mahler revised the work, so the plates were revised and corrected and the full score of the second version (PF1) issued in the autumn of 1906. However the print materials from which the study score was produced were only revised to place the scherzo third in the sequence of movements: the orchestration and other details are unaltered (see PS1c).

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